mcdonalds CAN (the word you people conveniently leave out) kill you, but you don’t get pictures of somebody with their torso open on the operating theater on the carton of your big mac.
car fumes can kill you, and no pictures and warnings on cars, salt, knives, military service. Jesus Christ the list is endless.
i just want people to use logic, that’s all. why don’t people turn their nose up when a car drives past them with the more cancerous diesel fumes pouring out?
ps. OCD is not an addiction, btw. It’s classified as a mental illness/dissorder.
Anyways back to your comment. Of course McDonalds can kill, most of us know that. The things they put in their food is terrible (or in any fast food for that matter). That’s why I stopped eating fast food years ago!
And yes, you make a valid point, but it’s not like we can logically ask everyone to stop driving. It serves a practical purpose (though I wish there was a better alternative).
to continue that last comment: smoking serves no necessity. While we can argue for days about the millions of things that are harmful for you, smoking, drinking, and drugs, I would say are the least healthy out there. If we want to try our best to stay healthy (aside from the inevitable things), then we wouldn’t smoke in the first place. I’m guessing you’re a smoker? No judgment. Just saying, it’s not dangerous like a knife. It’s dangerous like a slow, painful suicide.
i am a smoker, and i’m sick of being oppressed into stopping smoking, that’s why i’m here. i’m not disputing smoking is unhealthy (for the body) i’m disputing the outrageous and unfair targeting of smoking while other major health threats go on Scot free.
nobody treats the obese like criminals, in fact the obese could do with taking up smoking to shed some weight.
a knife is dangerous like bleeding to death in the street. at least with cancer you have your family by ur side.
Of course, I understand. I didn’t mean to offend you, just the facts do stand, smoking is extremely addictive, and once you get hooked, the cycle of addiction starts (i.e. lying about why you don’t want to quit, hiding it from others, etc.).
It just honestly makes me cry when I see people smoke, because we all know what it does to you and how hard it is to stop, which is why I can’t understand why people start. My mom’s dad died of a heart attack when she was 13, directly linked to smoking, and I don’t think she’ll ever be the same. Other than the smoking, he was a robust, healthy man from what I understand, and would have lived a long life.
And I’ve seen so many instances of cancer in my family (myself included), none of which were “controllable” / “preventable” (and yes, I know lung cancer and oral cancer aren’t only from smoking), and let me tell you, you say that about cancer now, but when you’re getting the treatment, you’ll want to kill yourself. Even for the most minor of cases (and lung cancer cases in smokers are usually diagnosed far too late).
SO (sorry for all the comments), if I or any of my relatives who had it would have had a conscious choice to greatly reduce our risk, hell ya I would have taken it, no question. So if I was a smoker and knew that lung cancer is directly linked to it, or had a relative who had lung cancer, I would do everything in my power to quit, no matter what.
no scientist or doctor can say for definite that i wont live until 100 and die peacefully in my sleep.
the fact is anything can happen, didn’t Churchill live until 90? and we know he loved a smoke.
besides, i don’t want to become old, in decline and be a burden to my family and society while not even being able to enjoy life for perhaps decades.
Well, can’t argue with that. It is your life after all. I’m just saying if you do end up with cancer, you won’t be saying the things about it that you originally said. It’s horrible. And lung cancer must be a lot worse than most of the others, considering you need your lungs to breathe. Isn’t it bad enough to have smokers’ cough, I can’t understand why anyone would want to feel like their constantly drowning (from emphysema) for years of their life, for the “enjoyment” of smoking.
Anyways, that’s all I had to said. It’s your choice of course, I can’t change that. But know that life looks up (and a lot less expensive) if you quit.
omg don’t get me started, the tax hike on tobacco in this country is criminal. beer and fast food doesn’t suffer the same, despite the cost to the health service, human life and society.
fuck, it’s depressing really. persecuting peoples lifestyles in favour of ones you think are superior….. what’s that called again?
But people take medication for a condition…smoking will give you a medical condition (and I’m not talking about a good one :P). I kind of don’t get your point?
ps. hasn’t the media already taken a stance on fast foods? A lot of people know the risks, yet they still eat it. Analogous to smoking. It’s all bad for you, and it is a choice to start eating/smoking it. And yes, of course I understand it’s extremely hard to quit, and a non-smoker could never understand how hard it is. But the fact of the matter is, there’s really no benefit to it at all that you can’t get from something a lot safer.
i don’t know how it is in Canada, but in England adverts on TV for an artery clogging special burger meal is ok. even advertising beer is ok. but smoking cannot be advertised anywhere at all. i see what you are saying about how it ‘does nothing for you’ but you could say that about beer and many other things.
I’m not against fast food and beer, i’m all for fairness though.
Well, that’s true. I’m not for beer or fast food though either. I have a boss who’s an alcoholic and heavy smoker, and she used to be so athletic, so perky, etc. (from what I know), until she started that, and now she’s going down a vicious circle. I don’t think it’ll be long before she gets oral cancer or lung cancer, her voice box is already failing. Just makes me really sad. I know the world isn’t perfect, but smoking (and drinking) are such widespread habits…makes me sad
you’ve made some good points but i still think we as humanity face bigger threats to mainly our lives and mental health these days than the physical side effects of smoking, that aren’t given half the attention they deserve. i was obese when i started smoking, and am now below the national average for men my age….. but that could have just been time and my metabolism, just as it could be with your boss.
i see people drinking and smoking and i’m happy for them. perhaps i’m naive.
We all live our own lives, so it’s true we have our own things to worry about. Nobody’s perfect, it’s true. I’ve just seen the terrible effects of smoking time and time again, and people don’t realize it until it’s too late (same as with drinking, fast food, drug abuse, etc.). I just hate to see people who are naive about it, but as long as you know the risks, it’s really in your hands, right?
maybe you should do some research. one in five CHILDREN in america smoke. more adults. so id say that we are about even, and that is nothing to be proud of. it just sounds ignorant, and slightly bias, or maybe even slightly racist…
Please.. USA run the world? You’re forgetting a country called England right there…
mcdonalds CAN (the word you people conveniently leave out) kill you, but you don’t get pictures of somebody with their torso open on the operating theater on the carton of your big mac.
car fumes can kill you, and no pictures and warnings on cars, salt, knives, military service. Jesus Christ the list is endless.
i just want people to use logic, that’s all. why don’t people turn their nose up when a car drives past them with the more cancerous diesel fumes pouring out?
ps. OCD is not an addiction, btw. It’s classified as a mental illness/dissorder.
Anyways back to your comment. Of course McDonalds can kill, most of us know that. The things they put in their food is terrible (or in any fast food for that matter). That’s why I stopped eating fast food years ago!
And yes, you make a valid point, but it’s not like we can logically ask everyone to stop driving. It serves a practical purpose (though I wish there was a better alternative).
to continue that last comment: smoking serves no necessity. While we can argue for days about the millions of things that are harmful for you, smoking, drinking, and drugs, I would say are the least healthy out there. If we want to try our best to stay healthy (aside from the inevitable things), then we wouldn’t smoke in the first place. I’m guessing you’re a smoker? No judgment. Just saying, it’s not dangerous like a knife. It’s dangerous like a slow, painful suicide.
i am a smoker, and i’m sick of being oppressed into stopping smoking, that’s why i’m here. i’m not disputing smoking is unhealthy (for the body) i’m disputing the outrageous and unfair targeting of smoking while other major health threats go on Scot free.
nobody treats the obese like criminals, in fact the obese could do with taking up smoking to shed some weight.
a knife is dangerous like bleeding to death in the street. at least with cancer you have your family by ur side.
Of course, I understand. I didn’t mean to offend you, just the facts do stand, smoking is extremely addictive, and once you get hooked, the cycle of addiction starts (i.e. lying about why you don’t want to quit, hiding it from others, etc.).
It just honestly makes me cry when I see people smoke, because we all know what it does to you and how hard it is to stop, which is why I can’t understand why people start. My mom’s dad died of a heart attack when she was 13, directly linked to smoking, and I don’t think she’ll ever be the same. Other than the smoking, he was a robust, healthy man from what I understand, and would have lived a long life.
And I’ve seen so many instances of cancer in my family (myself included), none of which were “controllable” / “preventable” (and yes, I know lung cancer and oral cancer aren’t only from smoking), and let me tell you, you say that about cancer now, but when you’re getting the treatment, you’ll want to kill yourself. Even for the most minor of cases (and lung cancer cases in smokers are usually diagnosed far too late).
SO (sorry for all the comments), if I or any of my relatives who had it would have had a conscious choice to greatly reduce our risk, hell ya I would have taken it, no question. So if I was a smoker and knew that lung cancer is directly linked to it, or had a relative who had lung cancer, I would do everything in my power to quit, no matter what.
no scientist or doctor can say for definite that i wont live until 100 and die peacefully in my sleep.
the fact is anything can happen, didn’t Churchill live until 90? and we know he loved a smoke.
besides, i don’t want to become old, in decline and be a burden to my family and society while not even being able to enjoy life for perhaps decades.
Well, can’t argue with that. It is your life after all. I’m just saying if you do end up with cancer, you won’t be saying the things about it that you originally said. It’s horrible. And lung cancer must be a lot worse than most of the others, considering you need your lungs to breathe. Isn’t it bad enough to have smokers’ cough, I can’t understand why anyone would want to feel like their constantly drowning (from emphysema) for years of their life, for the “enjoyment” of smoking.
Anyways, that’s all I had to said. It’s your choice of course, I can’t change that. But know that life looks up (and a lot less expensive) if you quit.
omg don’t get me started, the tax hike on tobacco in this country is criminal. beer and fast food doesn’t suffer the same, despite the cost to the health service, human life and society.
fuck, it’s depressing really. persecuting peoples lifestyles in favour of ones you think are superior….. what’s that called again?
Bigotry? Better yet, why not get rid of it all?
But people take medication for a condition…smoking will give you a medical condition (and I’m not talking about a good one :P). I kind of don’t get your point?
ps. hasn’t the media already taken a stance on fast foods? A lot of people know the risks, yet they still eat it. Analogous to smoking. It’s all bad for you, and it is a choice to start eating/smoking it. And yes, of course I understand it’s extremely hard to quit, and a non-smoker could never understand how hard it is. But the fact of the matter is, there’s really no benefit to it at all that you can’t get from something a lot safer.
i don’t know how it is in Canada, but in England adverts on TV for an artery clogging special burger meal is ok. even advertising beer is ok. but smoking cannot be advertised anywhere at all. i see what you are saying about how it ‘does nothing for you’ but you could say that about beer and many other things.
I’m not against fast food and beer, i’m all for fairness though.
Well, that’s true. I’m not for beer or fast food though either. I have a boss who’s an alcoholic and heavy smoker, and she used to be so athletic, so perky, etc. (from what I know), until she started that, and now she’s going down a vicious circle. I don’t think it’ll be long before she gets oral cancer or lung cancer, her voice box is already failing. Just makes me really sad. I know the world isn’t perfect, but smoking (and drinking) are such widespread habits…makes me sad
you’ve made some good points but i still think we as humanity face bigger threats to mainly our lives and mental health these days than the physical side effects of smoking, that aren’t given half the attention they deserve. i was obese when i started smoking, and am now below the national average for men my age….. but that could have just been time and my metabolism, just as it could be with your boss.
i see people drinking and smoking and i’m happy for them. perhaps i’m naive.
We all live our own lives, so it’s true we have our own things to worry about. Nobody’s perfect, it’s true. I’ve just seen the terrible effects of smoking time and time again, and people don’t realize it until it’s too late (same as with drinking, fast food, drug abuse, etc.). I just hate to see people who are naive about it, but as long as you know the risks, it’s really in your hands, right?
I like the song
and thank God I don’t have to quit smoking, cuz I have never smoked. hehe.
smoking is suicide.
make them read allen carrs book
maybe you should do some research. one in five CHILDREN in america smoke. more adults. so id say that we are about even, and that is nothing to be proud of. it just sounds ignorant, and slightly bias, or maybe even slightly racist…
that’s it today’s the day i quit